You are genuinely fan of the books and the game and everything apparently on set.

You know more than anyone else.

I wouldn’t necessarily say anyone else, but I I am.

Yes, I’m a big fan.

Yeah, So do you correct people?

Um, I don’t necessarily.

I am effusive about getting the uh. being being loyal to the source material, let’s put it that way: okay.

So yes, yes, you do.

You do fly your nerd flag with pride.

What now?

One of your hobbies-

And he’s got a lot of them, ladies and gentlemen, one of your hobbies is you.

Paint makes you sound weird.

I have more Hobbies than the average man, I’d say.

But you, you paint.

Is it war of World of Warcraft?

Uh, Warhammer, Warhammer, I’m a fool.

It’s more Hammer gray.

Okay.

So what you see?

You you paint by hand.

Yes, yeah, does everyone do that?

Or can you buy them?

Or no, you have to paint them, but it’s just how much effort you put into it.

There’s a lot of everything.

There’s the painting modeling side of the Hobby, and then there’s the gaming side, Lobby.

Okay, and when you paint them, what do you do with them?

Then, Henry?

Then you um, put them together in real armies and you fight against someone else’s Army.

God, it’s actually it is fun.

Oh man, it sounds ridiculous, but it is.

Yeah, no toys, very good fun.

A lot’s been made about, uh, Superman’s disguise as Clark Kent.

Yeah, really light it is.

It’s, it’s a very light disguise.

Seemingly so, really like.

I’ve got the glasses, so if you just pop them on so we can see the difference that the glasses make, just pass them down there, we go prepared to be amazed.

Oh what, where’s Henry gone?

That’s really creepy, crazy.

It’s even creepy when you say it in that voice, because it is one of those things.

It’s amazing that either they haven’t come up with some sort of backstory or, like you kind of think, in 2016 they wouldn’t just put you in some glasses and say: and no one will know who you are.

But actually, didn’t you do an experiment?

I didn’t, indeed, yeah, to be a Counterpoint to what you’re talking about.

Yeah, to prove you wrong, in fact.

Um, we were a friend of mine and I were discussing the idea of these glasses not being good enough disguise and, uh, we decided to go to Times Square to test the theory.

I wore a Superman T-shirt and no glasses and stood underneath the giant wrap around Batman v Superman posters in Times Square.

I think we’ve got.

We’ve got a picture over there.

There you are, yeah, and took a bunch of other photos and some video as well.

And, uh, got stopped twice, once by someone exiting a Subway asking for directions to Central Station, and the other time I was in a coffee shop where someone said: could you please stop taking photos?

That was it.

That is bizarre.

Yeah,

Yeah, it’s.

It’s apparently very easy to do.

Can you take you just look really comfortable in those classes?

Yeah, Oh, for once.

But now, uh, you know, for all these roles you have to be an amazing shape.

So the witch are the same, where you just have to kind of shred, shred, shred.

Yes, um, the training for these kind of things, the most important thing is, is your own health.

It’s so you can stay physically fit without injuries.

While doing all these these crazy things like being thrown against pillars, jumping out of um airplanes, it’s, uh, it, that’s what it really is for.

I mean, yes, you’re supposed to look a certain way aesthetically, especially getting a shirt off, but, um, it’s mostly for just just staying healthy.

But the weird thing is- and this doesn’t add very healthy if you’re doing one of those shirt things, um, you can’t shoot less shirtless.

If you’re doing a shirtless scene, what’s that?

You have to dehydrate yourself?

Oh yeah,

Yeah, that is by.

That’s the worst part of it.

Like Diet is difficult, um, and you’re hungry.

But when you’re dehydrating for three days, you get to the point on the last day where you can smell water like nearby.

So why?

Why did you do that?

To get soup?

It gets your.

Uh, it makes your skin really thin, so it sits on the muscles.

Um, yeah, you’ve got a scene with your top off, because Bryn came out to the Sea and Gavin and Stacy.

I did not dehydrate for three days before I do.

Yes, yes, I was in good shape, yeah,

So so you did, and then it makes it up.

Oh yeah,

Yeah, but for three days that can’t be good, it’s not.

It’s not.

No water for three days.

On the first day you’ll have um like a liter and a half, and the second day half a liter, and then the third day no water, and you’ll shoot the fourth, and the funeral is on the sixth day.

A lot of times sometimes they don’t shoot the scene till the end of the fourth day as well, and so you’re the most miserable person on the planet.

Sure, we were looking at at the top of the show there.

Yeah, you posted it.

You posted that picture and, fairness, if I looked like that, I’d be sitting with my top off right now.

Now you posted on Facebook, didn’t you?

Uh, oh yes, Facebook and Instagram.

Yeah, somebody did.

And uh well, the comments, the comments were: that’s actually from my Facebook page.

It’s your, it’s your goal.

I was going to do worse than that, only less than that.

Yeah, do not exceed this.

Yeah, the the comments on Facebook, though I love that people like bother to put these things.

I think I just wet my panties.

This next person.

I have the weirdest boner right now.

We’re hoping that’s a man.

I wonder what was weird about it.

I know at this one.

I just love this one.

This is just holy, sweet little seven pound baby Jesus, happy Easter.

I don’t know.

And Henry, you know Henry, huge star now, but there was a bit in your career where you kind of were going to give up, weren’t you?

Oh yeah,

Yeah, last week, that’s today.

Um I, yes, there was it.

Just, I think, early on in my career, I got the cattle, Monte Cristo and then a couple of movies after that, and and then I was auditioning I was always aiming for leading roles, yeah, and getting all the right things were being said to me.

Um, afterwards by by the casting directors and saying you were great, the best person walked in the room, but you’re not a name and we need a name.

And so that was a thing.

And I thought: well, this feels a bit like a Catch-22 scenario, and I became a little bit disenchanted with the whole thing

And I thought: well, you know what, I’m going to give it a little bit more time.

And then I’m going to follow my original course, which was go join the armed forces, and it was then that I got the bond screen test and that was the thing which put me in variety, and then my name was in variety and then more people started pursuing me

And it became a bit more.

I was not a name as such, but I had at least been printed in variety.

Also, the fact that you got so close, I mean, made you kind of a player.

I guess people were.

I mean if, I guess, if they were interested, then there was a chance that, yeah, I had something.

Oh Henry, I don’t know if you know this, but uh, the bond position is vacant.

That’s why you’re wearing glasses.

I mean I have to ask you: are you in the running if you put yourself out of the running?

If they came a calling, would you say: Yes, um, I, I would definitely have a conversation.

I think there’s lunch, lunch.

Yeah, from what I, from what I understand there’s.

There’s very, very early conversations happening up top at Mgm and and with Barbara and Mike.

But uh, there’s no list as such yet.

So I, I, there’s no list top.

I was like there’s.

No, you know that internet Googled it.

Yeah

Right, Henry Cavill, James Bond in Hollywood, everyone’s auditioning um, or in the acting industry, everyone’s trying to get a role

And they’re not necessarily getting them.

And so to get an opportunity to be in the Limelight by missing out on the big roles is actually a good thing as opposed to a bad thing.

And I I count my lucky stars for each one of those.

Okay, you’re turning it into a positive.

It still sounds quite to just lose jobs attack.

No, didn’t get it again.

That’s great, but it’s great for my profile.

I’m the guy who never works because it wasn’t Twilight written for you.

Oh well, hey, I don’t know, I wouldn’t go that far, or you can I?

I think the writer of the books.

When the movie came around, I think I was her first choice.

I think that’s the rumor I heard- and she wanted me to play the role, but it wasn’t up to her and instead, you know, a very talented active played instead.

Wow, who will remain nameless?

Not that he’s angry, wealthy and famous for the nameless in Twilight, all the Twilights he’s in there being the remake, Henry, you’re probably not going to miss your face Furniture.

You’re not fond of the face Furniture, are you?

Oh, it’s not that I’m not fond of it, it’s just that you know.

If I’m, if I’m walking past schools, people give me funny looks.

It’s tough to buy Vans.

I won’t give children sweeties, do you normally do that alone?

Very few men can carry that off, but no, it’s very good.

Do you know what that’s annoying about that?

It’s that’s like if Henry Cavill wore a stupid hat.

You would think, oh, that stupid hat looks really good.

And it’s not just he looks really good, and you put it on, it’s a stupid hat.

Yeah, What was your nickname at school?

Uh, my nickname in school was fat Cavill.

Uh, considering, my name was indeed Cavill

And I was indeed fat, how Lordy were you?

Um, I mean I, I my dad always said from the age of about 13, I stayed the same weight until I was 25.

I just got taller.

Okay, So you were enormously fat at 13..

Um, I I don’t know about enormously fat.

You were more videos.

You could have died.

Um, but now the odd thing about kind of this movie is, uh, that Russell, you you met fat Cavill.

Yeah, He, he definitely wasn’t fat cattle when I met him at 16.

No, no, but we were shooting here in London a movie called Proof of Life in 2000, and uh, there was the opening sequence of the film was shot at Stowe College, you know.

And um, we went out there and there was a kid there called Merlin Hanbury Tennyson, who was playing my son and, uh, in a break of the shooting, you know, which was actually, there was a Rugby union game going on and there was one kid on that field who was very fluid and in control.

So I actually caught my eye and I was watching and that kid that was fluid and in control came over to have a chat.

But all his questions were about acting, you know, and there was just a smile in his eyes where there was something dead serious behind that smile.

So, instead of, uh, not answering the questions or whatever, because you get asked these questions 100 000 times.

I told him the truth.

You know, in the brief moment that I had with him-

And um put it in front of him- that you know it’s a challenge that’s up to him, you know?

Uh, nobody’s going to give it to you.

A couple of days later, I was put into package together for the kid who played my son, because I figured the greatest thing if you’re at boarding school must be unexpected mail, right?

You know?

Yeah, so, and I thought I’ll put one together for that other bloke, and I remembered his name because he’d been very clear when he said he didn’t say hi, I’m fat cattle, but he did say hi, Superman.

Actually, because I had two of the same photographs, and for the one that I wrote for Merlin, I put on a. you come from a long line of generals.

There’s a photograph from Gladiator.

He went and joined the army, three tours of Afghanistan later, and now he does close personal security here in London.

Wow, um, and on Henry’s I put, a journey of a Thousand Miles begins with a single step.

Basically, you know, if you want it, you go and get it.

You know 12 years later and it was probably three months into working together, you know, I finally said to him: do I know you from somewhere?

And you got this little smile on his eyes.

He went: do you remember going to snow School?

I guess?

Do you remember a kid that came and talked about acting all right?

Yeah, yes, trust me, I said really, what did I say?

And he said: well, um, you said they pay you pretty well, but they treat you like.

I said yes, foreign.